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General_Verdacht Member Posts: 30
September 2022 edited September 2022 in Feedback and Suggestions
I feel like Freddy doesn't perform as good as the other Killers,
his teleport is slow and easy to tell, not to mention he loses this abillity in the endgame while other Killers like Dredge and the Onrio can do that much faster, his Trapps are really not that much of a help, especially because the Survivor needs to be in the Sleeping state to have any effect on him. Same goes with the fake pallets, but they are even less of a help against good survivors.
When i see a Nightmare on Elmstreet Movie he has this awesome and sometimes creepy dream powers, dreaming is something his victims really be afraid of, while in DBD its an annoyance at best.
I think the best would be a complete rework of the Killer, Dreaming should do more then just get his traps active and hinder your progression by 2%
give him something similar to the movies and if u cant use other movies then the remake, there are still a lot of nice things in this, for example (ok this will not do anything for his powers, its just optics) u could make the walls and everything in a Level boiler room themed, when a survivor enters the dream state.
How about some skill that helps him end loops faster, because right now the worst killers are all that cant end a loop fast.
Has someone Ideas?
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dbd900bach Member Posts: 560
September 2022
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I think to realistically embody what Freddy can actually do in the dream world, he needs his own game entirely. The mechanics of dbd hinder most of the creative abilities he could of had.
Personally though I wish he'd be an illusion based killer, being able to create things in the dream world that are physically real to the survivors like new walls or something like that. Not just fake pallets that are easy to tell from real if you pay attention
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TheGentlemen Member Posts: 198
September 2022
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We've heard this about 99 times, BHVR very clearly doesn't care about Freddy and they haven't for a long time
He doesn't need a rework, he needs a revert in my opinion, his old power was unique and interesting opposed to boring and uninspired
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dbd900bach Member Posts: 560
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167612#Comment_3167612
His old power was extremely weak, it would especially suffer in today's meta. However if they reverted it and tweaked out the huge Downsides, then maybe
MigrantTheGreat Member Posts: 1,378
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167612#Comment_3167612
I hope you don't mean Freddy 1.0!
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danielmaster87 Member Posts: 8,362
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167612#Comment_3167612
So simply putting survivors to sleep before you can hit them somehow isn't boring and uninspired... but having dream snares, pallets, and teleportation is?
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GeneralV Member Posts: 10,201
September 2022
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Hehe, I like your style, mate.
And a fellow General too? My my, how interesting!
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TheGentlemen Member Posts: 198
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167636#Comment_3167636
Having dream snares and pallets is boring yeah
It's Freddy, you think they'd have some creative aspects given what he's capable of in the dream realm, and his power is putting down little puddles of ketchup for survivors to step in
It's boring, what else can I say about it
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TheGentlemen Member Posts: 198
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167630#Comment_3167630
Obviously make his power stronger, but the old concept that they had for him was a bit more creative in my opinion
It's just cooler to me than say, placing puddles of blood and fake pallets that only a new player would fall for
Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306
September 2022
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Or put him out of his misery.
Anything but Freddy 1.0.
BlightedDolphin Member Posts: 1,584
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167627#Comment_3167627
What about this new meta would make him weaker? If anything old Freddy would be stronger now that Self-Care is no longer meta.
dbd900bach Member Posts: 560
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167749#Comment_3167749
I recall people still very much abusing self-care these days, even some pro players. That also doesn't include COH, and other healing builds. We also have the infamous green medkit. Self-Care isn't meta because there's way better options, to which self-care itself isn't useless either
WesCravenFan Member Posts: 2,638
September 2022
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Dream pallets should be base kit and toggle like Clown bottles do.
Sepex Member Posts: 1,408
September 2022
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I came here to tag @GeneralV but he already made an appearance. So...yeah I'm out.
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IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 5,989
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167770#Comment_3167770
how does someone "Abuse self-care"
Hoodied Member Posts: 12,994
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167627#Comment_3167627
We have new ways to tweak freddy to be usable and for him to not be forced to watch as people do stuff right in front of him, because incapacitated exists and they could easily make microsleep have that mechanic for old Freddy, so much stuff about old Freddy would actually work in current day dbd compared to new Freddy
Hoodied Member Posts: 12,994
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167644#Comment_3167644
I love how you always appear on Freddy related posts
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General_Verdacht Member Posts: 30
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167644#Comment_3167644
Yes we generals have to stick together, also i really like Freddy, or at least his movies, i would love to have him to be more then a hopeless M1 killer, but at the moment hes very sadly even worse then Myers and Pig.
BlightedDolphin Member Posts: 1,584
September 2022
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3167770#Comment_3167770
But you can’t use CoH mid chase except in very specific situations. And unless you are right next to it when Freddy puts you to sleep, you have to run over to the boom which Freddy can see you do and now he can ambush you.
Med Kits would be an issue, but at least with them missing skill checks and using the new haemorrhage they won’t get many heals from it.
Marik1987 Member Posts: 1,700
September 2022 edited September 2022
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I actually enjoy playing around fake teleports. His main issues are the Addons, which are by far the worst in the entire game and the Snare OR Pallet-Thing.
1.) Give him Snares (4 instead of 5 Snares) + Pallets (6 instead of 7) Basekit (switching by tapping CTRL like Clown does) and an Addon-Pass.
2.) Some addon-changes could be:
Garden Rake: adding 3 Tokens to Pallets
Prototype Claw: adding 2 Tokens to Snares
Z-Block: instead of Hemmorhage, Snares/Pallets give Mangled+Hemmorhage+Blindness-Effect for 60 sec
Cat-Block: just like Z-Block, but for 30secs
Unicorn-/Sheepblock: Instead of giving Blindness only, it gives you the ability to Channel Dream-Projection faster (faster animation)
Red Paint Brush: remove the yellow 30-sec-immunity of the Alarm-Clocks in addition to its current effect (so Alarm-Clocks gives u 90sec before fall asleep, but no immunity for hits anymore).
Black-Box: While holding a Dream-Snare-Animation for at least 3 secs (so he walks around with 4,0m/s), auras of survivors will revealed to The Nightmare 16m around him (like Amandas Letter from Piggy). In exchange, Freddys Dream-Projection is disabled. This only works if survivors are asleep, of course.
Nancys Masterpiece/Sketch: These two addons should have better numbers.
Class-Photo: remove the Downside of beeing trapped in the animation, instead, increase the time it takes to recover
Blue-Dress, Green-Dress and Woolshirt: can stay how it is, but Blue-Dress should have 6%, Green 4% like now and Woolshirt only 2%.
Kids Drawing: Can stay how it is. One Meme-Addon is ok.
Last but not least:
give him the ability to use Terror-Radius-Related Perks... atm you cannot use Coulrophobia for example.... (change the TR-Perks to while in TR or inside a Lullaby).
With these changes, he would become stronger (currently a D-Tier-Killer, so I cannot see a problem by buffing him slightly with these changes) and more fun to play, especially you would have DIFFERENT WAYS, not only Gen-Defense just like now. No One-######### like Clowns Finger for example is fine tho, because he has map-pressure just like Dredge. Dredge is tbh a good example how Freddy could be in some points, NOT ALL.
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MeepLessThan3 Member Posts: 85
September 2022
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I would 100% be in favor of bringing back Old Freddy as I used to main him. I think with the meta shake up, and increased generator times and regression perks that have been added to the game since then. I think he would be viable in the modern era of Dead by Daylight, although he can keep Dream Pallets and his teleport though. His old kit made it feel like you were playing Freddy, whereas the current one just feels like another antilooping killer with a gimmick (dream pallets).
